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		<title>By: Concepcion Lute</title>
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		<dc:creator>Concepcion Lute</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 23:30:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read that he that he wanted do a Eastenders appearence! lmao. Sounds a bit dodgy to me. There&#039;s a bit of me that sort of hopes this is true lol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read that he that he wanted do a Eastenders appearence! lmao. Sounds a bit dodgy to me. There&#8217;s a bit of me that sort of hopes this is true lol.</p>
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		<title>By: not completely terrible &#124; just an ordinary goddess&#8230;</title>
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		<dc:creator>not completely terrible &#124; just an ordinary goddess&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 03:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] completely terrible fangirl, film, geeky &#124;  On Sunday CuteFilmNerd and I went to see Sherlock Holmes. It was definitely a Guy Ritchie movie &#8211; very early on we saw some very stock Guy Ritchie [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] completely terrible fangirl, film, geeky |  On Sunday CuteFilmNerd and I went to see Sherlock Holmes. It was definitely a Guy Ritchie movie &#8211; very early on we saw some very stock Guy Ritchie [...]</p>
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		<title>By: JOhn Brown</title>
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		<dc:creator>JOhn Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 03:49:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the post.. I can&#039;t wait for the Sherlock Holmes movie..*2 more days!*..I&#039;m going to &lt;a href=&quot;http://watch-sherlock-holmes-online.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;watch Sherlock Holmes online&lt;/a&gt; as soon as I can...mind if I share this post on digg?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the post.. I can&#8217;t wait for the Sherlock Holmes movie..*2 more days!*..I&#8217;m going to <a href="http://watch-sherlock-holmes-online.com" rel="nofollow">watch Sherlock Holmes online</a> as soon as I can&#8230;mind if I share this post on digg?</p>
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		<title>By: WendyB_09</title>
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		<dc:creator>WendyB_09</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 22:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank  you CE, I&#039;ll await your recommendations. 
May be limited to open theaters on available, and limited, holiday bus routes, but if the weather is good that may not be a problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank  you CE, I&#8217;ll await your recommendations.<br />
May be limited to open theaters on available, and limited, holiday bus routes, but if the weather is good that may not be a problem.</p>
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		<title>By: CarolElaine</title>
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		<dc:creator>CarolElaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wendy, I don&#039;t know yet if &lt;i&gt;Sherlock Holmes&lt;/i&gt; will be a good Christmas movie (I&#039;ll be seeing it that weekend), but I have seen &lt;i&gt;Nine&lt;/i&gt;, which opens on Christmas Day and is an interesting movie. I don&#039;t know how you feel about musicals, and &lt;i&gt;Nine&lt;/i&gt; isn&#039;t as good as &lt;i&gt;Chicago&lt;/i&gt;, but Daniel Day-Lewis alone is so fascinating to watch that it&#039;s worth the price of admission. Plus it has Sophia Loren (who still looks phenomenal - I should look so good now, let alone at her age) and Judi Dench (who is fantastic, as usual).

Tonight CuteFilmNerd and I will be seeing Terry Gilliam&#039;s latest, &lt;i&gt;The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus&lt;/i&gt;, which also opens on Christmas Day. I love Terry Gilliam, so it&#039;s bound to be interesting at least, but I&#039;ll report back about whether it&#039;s worth your Christmas Day dollars.

I don&#039;t recommend &lt;i&gt;The Lovely Bones&lt;/i&gt;. While Peter Jackson tries to recapture the melding of stunning fantasy and jolting reality that he did successfully with &lt;i&gt;Heavenly Creatures&lt;/i&gt;, it ultimately doesn&#039;t work. Lovely moments do not a movie make.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wendy, I don&#8217;t know yet if <i>Sherlock Holmes</i> will be a good Christmas movie (I&#8217;ll be seeing it that weekend), but I have seen <i>Nine</i>, which opens on Christmas Day and is an interesting movie. I don&#8217;t know how you feel about musicals, and <i>Nine</i> isn&#8217;t as good as <i>Chicago</i>, but Daniel Day-Lewis alone is so fascinating to watch that it&#8217;s worth the price of admission. Plus it has Sophia Loren (who still looks phenomenal &#8211; I should look so good now, let alone at her age) and Judi Dench (who is fantastic, as usual).</p>
<p>Tonight CuteFilmNerd and I will be seeing Terry Gilliam&#8217;s latest, <i>The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus</i>, which also opens on Christmas Day. I love Terry Gilliam, so it&#8217;s bound to be interesting at least, but I&#8217;ll report back about whether it&#8217;s worth your Christmas Day dollars.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t recommend <i>The Lovely Bones</i>. While Peter Jackson tries to recapture the melding of stunning fantasy and jolting reality that he did successfully with <i>Heavenly Creatures</i>, it ultimately doesn&#8217;t work. Lovely moments do not a movie make.</p>
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		<title>By: WendyB_09</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 06:38:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you - Jeremy Brett was the best Holmes. One of our PBS stations is running his Holmes series again and it is still wonderful, even as many times as I&#039;ve seen it. Sigh.

I&#039;ve seen the trailer for the new movie...meh...haven&#039;t seen the massive marketing tie-ins yet at this juncture, but that may be because we don&#039;t have 7-11 store hereabouts. I suspect the other products will surface here soon enough. 

And as I&#039;ll be on my own for Christmas Day this year, a movie might be an option! (depending, as always, on the availability of public transportation on a major holiday)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you &#8211; Jeremy Brett was the best Holmes. One of our PBS stations is running his Holmes series again and it is still wonderful, even as many times as I&#8217;ve seen it. Sigh.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen the trailer for the new movie&#8230;meh&#8230;haven&#8217;t seen the massive marketing tie-ins yet at this juncture, but that may be because we don&#8217;t have 7-11 store hereabouts. I suspect the other products will surface here soon enough. </p>
<p>And as I&#8217;ll be on my own for Christmas Day this year, a movie might be an option! (depending, as always, on the availability of public transportation on a major holiday)</p>
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		<title>By: CarolElaine</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 17:57:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t have a problem with alt-portrayals as a rule. I will always have a soft spot in my heart for &lt;i&gt;Young Sherlock Holmes&lt;/i&gt;. To this day my then-heavy crush on Nicholas Rowe persists, though now it&#039;s more an affectionate fondness (his stoner role in &lt;i&gt;Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels&lt;/i&gt; actually got me to see a very good Guy Ritchie movie). The conceit behind &lt;i&gt;Without A Clue&lt;/i&gt; makes Michael Caine&#039;s version of &quot;Holmes&quot; logical, so I don&#039;t have a quibble with that fun piece of fluff. Hell, one of my favorite alt-Holmes is George C. Scott in &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/They_Might_Be_Giants_%28film%29&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;They Might Be Giants&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt; (from whence the band gets its name) - that&#039;s pretty damned alt! But it&#039;s also a lovely, sad little film with Joanne Woodward as a marvelous Watson (another interesting alt-Watson was Margaret Colin in &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Return_of_Sherlock_Holmes_%28TV%29&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;The Return of Sherlock Holmes&quot;&lt;/a&gt;). Hell, there are ultra-purists who consider Jeremy Brett to be an alt-Holmes because they found him too histrionic, whereas I felt that he brought an appealing complexity to an already fascinating character.

Also, no quibbles with Holmes and Watson being transplanted to WWII-era England, because the essence of the characters (well, the essence of Holmes - much as I love Nigel Bruce, he was not Watson) and the stories felt relatively intact, despite the conversion into propaganda. Seeing as Holmes was transplanted to contemporary times in earlier incarnations, such as the Arthur Wonter and Clive Brook films, I don&#039;t feel I can really fault Universal for its decision.

So, yeah, it&#039;s not the altness of the movie, or even the character that bugs me (except for the slovenly thing - that&#039;s just &lt;i&gt;wrong&lt;/i&gt;). It&#039;s that the bit I&#039;ve seen of Downey as Holmes hasn&#039;t got even a sliver of relationship to the Holmes of the books. Hopefully I&#039;ll be proven wrong.

I haven&#039;t seen any of Ritchie&#039;s interviews regarding the new Holmes movie. I actually don&#039;t want to know any more about the film than I already do, since I developed an aversion to spoilers of any kind a few years ago, thanks to a &lt;i&gt;Buffy&lt;/i&gt; episode. But yes, the marketing is bugging the crap out of me too, even though the prevalence of Sherlock Holmes everywhere I turn secretly tickles me just a little.

Hopefully the new movie will have people turning to the books, just as the movie adaptation of &lt;i&gt;The Seven-Per-Cent Solution&lt;/i&gt; turned me to the stories when I was young, not realizing at the time that it wasn&#039;t an original Conan Doyle story but not caring once I found out because I fell completely in love with the Canon. And, just as hopefully, the young&#039;uns that check out the stories won&#039;t be disappointed by the singular lack of explosions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t have a problem with alt-portrayals as a rule. I will always have a soft spot in my heart for <i>Young Sherlock Holmes</i>. To this day my then-heavy crush on Nicholas Rowe persists, though now it&#8217;s more an affectionate fondness (his stoner role in <i>Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels</i> actually got me to see a very good Guy Ritchie movie). The conceit behind <i>Without A Clue</i> makes Michael Caine&#8217;s version of &#8220;Holmes&#8221; logical, so I don&#8217;t have a quibble with that fun piece of fluff. Hell, one of my favorite alt-Holmes is George C. Scott in <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/They_Might_Be_Giants_%28film%29" rel="nofollow"><i>They Might Be Giants</i></a> (from whence the band gets its name) &#8211; that&#8217;s pretty damned alt! But it&#8217;s also a lovely, sad little film with Joanne Woodward as a marvelous Watson (another interesting alt-Watson was Margaret Colin in <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Return_of_Sherlock_Holmes_%28TV%29" rel="nofollow">&#8220;The Return of Sherlock Holmes&#8221;</a>). Hell, there are ultra-purists who consider Jeremy Brett to be an alt-Holmes because they found him too histrionic, whereas I felt that he brought an appealing complexity to an already fascinating character.</p>
<p>Also, no quibbles with Holmes and Watson being transplanted to WWII-era England, because the essence of the characters (well, the essence of Holmes &#8211; much as I love Nigel Bruce, he was not Watson) and the stories felt relatively intact, despite the conversion into propaganda. Seeing as Holmes was transplanted to contemporary times in earlier incarnations, such as the Arthur Wonter and Clive Brook films, I don&#8217;t feel I can really fault Universal for its decision.</p>
<p>So, yeah, it&#8217;s not the altness of the movie, or even the character that bugs me (except for the slovenly thing &#8211; that&#8217;s just <i>wrong</i>). It&#8217;s that the bit I&#8217;ve seen of Downey as Holmes hasn&#8217;t got even a sliver of relationship to the Holmes of the books. Hopefully I&#8217;ll be proven wrong.</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t seen any of Ritchie&#8217;s interviews regarding the new Holmes movie. I actually don&#8217;t want to know any more about the film than I already do, since I developed an aversion to spoilers of any kind a few years ago, thanks to a <i>Buffy</i> episode. But yes, the marketing is bugging the crap out of me too, even though the prevalence of Sherlock Holmes everywhere I turn secretly tickles me just a little.</p>
<p>Hopefully the new movie will have people turning to the books, just as the movie adaptation of <i>The Seven-Per-Cent Solution</i> turned me to the stories when I was young, not realizing at the time that it wasn&#8217;t an original Conan Doyle story but not caring once I found out because I fell completely in love with the Canon. And, just as hopefully, the young&#8217;uns that check out the stories won&#8217;t be disappointed by the singular lack of explosions.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 16:17:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m unlikely to see it, tho&#039; it&#039;s not necessarily one I&#039;ll boycott, either.  I think I&#039;m okay with alt-portrayals of Holmes--I remember liking &lt;i&gt;Young Sherlock Holmes&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;Without A Clue&lt;/i&gt; although neither one is really that great a movie; the former being sort of actioney-adventurey and the latter portraying Holmes as a good bit worse than a mere slob.  Both, of course, take considerable liberties with canon.  But then again, so did a lot of the Rathbone films, several of which had Holmes in a (then) contemporary setting far removed from his Victorian roots (c.f. &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherlock_Holmes_(1939_film_series)&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this Wikipedia entry on the WWII-era Holmes films&lt;/a&gt;).

So I can cope with a non-canonical, deconstructed, reconstructed Sherlock Holmes, particularly one in the hands of a talented cast and crew.  What&#039;s a bit harder to deal with is Guy Richie, who is a really hit-and-miss director, and who&#039;s come off as a bit clueless in the few interviews about the film I&#039;ve seen.  (E.g. he&#039;s been asked about leaving Holmes&#039; cocaine problem out of the movie; there are good reasons you could leave it out, but Richie&#039;s vague explanation about it being a distraction just doesn&#039;t seem like one fo them.)  And the marketing of the movie is just irritating for its &lt;i&gt;generic-ness&lt;/i&gt; as much as anything.  Does every movie have to have a poster with the main character(s) standing against a blue, cloudy sky pierced by ominous buildings (a la &lt;i&gt;The Dark Knight&lt;/i&gt; and a thousand other movies)?  And, I know it&#039;s a rhetorical question (because the answer is actually &quot;yes&quot; because of the effed up way the Hollywood economy works these days), but does every big movie have to double as a vehicle for selling sandwiches?  It&#039;s now completely possible to be utterly sick of what might be a crommulent or even excellent movie months before it even hits theater screens (don&#039;t even get me started on &lt;i&gt;Avatar&lt;/i&gt;, a movie I feel like I&#039;ve already seen six or seven times despite the fact it&#039;s not even out yet).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m unlikely to see it, tho&#8217; it&#8217;s not necessarily one I&#8217;ll boycott, either.  I think I&#8217;m okay with alt-portrayals of Holmes&#8211;I remember liking <i>Young Sherlock Holmes</i> and <i>Without A Clue</i> although neither one is really that great a movie; the former being sort of actioney-adventurey and the latter portraying Holmes as a good bit worse than a mere slob.  Both, of course, take considerable liberties with canon.  But then again, so did a lot of the Rathbone films, several of which had Holmes in a (then) contemporary setting far removed from his Victorian roots (c.f. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherlock_Holmes_(1939_film_series)" rel="nofollow">this Wikipedia entry on the WWII-era Holmes films</a>).</p>
<p>So I can cope with a non-canonical, deconstructed, reconstructed Sherlock Holmes, particularly one in the hands of a talented cast and crew.  What&#8217;s a bit harder to deal with is Guy Richie, who is a really hit-and-miss director, and who&#8217;s come off as a bit clueless in the few interviews about the film I&#8217;ve seen.  (E.g. he&#8217;s been asked about leaving Holmes&#8217; cocaine problem out of the movie; there are good reasons you could leave it out, but Richie&#8217;s vague explanation about it being a distraction just doesn&#8217;t seem like one fo them.)  And the marketing of the movie is just irritating for its <i>generic-ness</i> as much as anything.  Does every movie have to have a poster with the main character(s) standing against a blue, cloudy sky pierced by ominous buildings (a la <i>The Dark Knight</i> and a thousand other movies)?  And, I know it&#8217;s a rhetorical question (because the answer is actually &#8220;yes&#8221; because of the effed up way the Hollywood economy works these days), but does every big movie have to double as a vehicle for selling sandwiches?  It&#8217;s now completely possible to be utterly sick of what might be a crommulent or even excellent movie months before it even hits theater screens (don&#8217;t even get me started on <i>Avatar</i>, a movie I feel like I&#8217;ve already seen six or seven times despite the fact it&#8217;s not even out yet).</p>
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